The point. Do guys throw harder today than in my day. Definitely. I believe each generation is better than the last. Pitchers today throw, overall, harder than in my day. BUT - not that much harder. The gun is the difference. It registers a higher speed than yesteryear. Tom Seaver or Nolan Ryan - likely threw as hard as anyone who pitches today. Only difference is, today they care about the gun and spin rotation, for whatever reasons, and back in the day they cared about OUTS. The radar gun is a measurable statistic, as is spin rotation, etc. The intangible statistic, meaning OUTS, is less of a consideration of MLB scouts and brass. Maybe they are correct, I dont know and the game passed me by long ago, but for anyone interested, the gun didnt matter back in the day, today it does. But todays’s gun is juice compared to the days when Nolan Ryan pitched, or Tom Seaver (my favorites) who I saw pitch close up. Dwight Gooden, I could actually hear his spin rotation watching him warm up. You could hear his pitch - mine was dead silent. No one needed a gun for those folks. So, radar guns ….. nice for stats but batters dont care that much. LOL
Today, different story. I see a guy throwing a 90mph fastball on the gun and while I respect the velocity, that is simply a nice fastball. That speed is hittable. Same with 93–94 mph. Back in the day, there might have been a handful of us who could hit 90mph in a college league, more in the Cape Cod league, and a majority of the guys in pro ball. Today, 90 mph on the current guns get one a look and trip to independent ball if they are lucky.
This is what I recall. In the 80s I charted pitches with the radar gun (jugs gun) which was the obligation of a minor league player (AA) before a start the next day. Next to me, often, was the opposing pitcher doing the same thing, likely with a Ray Gun. Then there were two types of guns, Ray and Jugs.
Hi everybody! I have been looking at posts on narcs and narc abuse on here and if has really helped me out a lot. I am currently struggling with my situation and need some advice/support.
I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized.
he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that.
he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened.
he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence.
i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me
i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction.
after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly.
things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it.
we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe …
our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far?
this has upset me so much its hard to even function.
Ray registered faster. Jugs slower - maybe by 4 mph. It was not uncommon that we missed a pitch to write in the chart. Distracted by girls, hot dogs whatever. So we asked each other the speed of the pitch they got, curve, change, fastball, whatever. The gun was then used as a tool for basically two things. One, as the game went on, was the pitcher losing velocity - he was getting tired. Pitch counts meant little then, though were always considered after a 100 pitches or the Mississippi heat and humidity. Two, we all got a chance to measure who really threw HARD. I threw maybe 86 on the Jugs for a fastball, Ray gun 90 mph. I was average. The top guys threw 92 on the Jugs, up to 96 (highest I ever saw) on the Ray gun. Those were the top prospects, without name dropping. So for perspective, that was my experience probably 1985–1987 AA, Texas League. I do know that then, basically the gun registered near home plate. Why do I know that - I was just a guy filing in a pitching chart, I really didnt care. I knew that because pitches low in the strike zone or below it registered consistently higher than pitches high in the stike zone or above it. I assume, today as I did then, the gun liked low pitches better than high pitches in terms of velocity. But heck, what do I know about the physics of it all? That was just what the gun told me. We really didnt measure velocity like today. The batters told everyone how hard a pitcher threw, and we could see amazing velocity. No one needed a gun for that. The gun was used to judge velocity to understand how a pitcher was doing. It was particularly important when a guy was coming off rehab.
